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OD Today: 22 January 2009 (early edition)

January 22, 2009

Looks like everybody’s still got an inauguration hangover. The standout story is probably item 5, regarding home schooling associations and old-earth creationists. The Gerald Warner editorial is also noteworthy, since it offers a perspective from Britain saying much the same thing (but better) we’ve been hearing about what conservative Christians expect from the Obama administration.

  1. Four Pointer calls out Joseph Lowery. “The cheering crowd and the broad smile plastered on the face of Messiah Osama says it all: these are the people who are REALLY living in the past and who the REAL racists are.”
  2. Thomas Heringer is still reading Francis Schaeffer and speaking somewhat obliquely about totalitarianism. “Further, when a government says that some people can have freedom to speak and have actions they desire, but other people are not allowed to speak in opposition to those, then that itself becomes intolerant. “
  3. Jennifer O’Hara reminds us that we need to pray for our political leaders. “it includes Barack Obama, it includes all of those in authority over us. A few years ago, when Nancy Pelosi ascended…”
  4. Dwayna Litz offers a tip on dodging accusations of hate crimes. “PLEASE BE SURE WHEN WITNESSING AT TABLE TO ASK, “Is it ok with you if I read you what the Bible says?””
  5. thatmom revisits the issue of authority and dissent within the Christian home-schooling movement. “Ultimately, Sonlight received no written or full “official” explanation, but got the message: the convention committee was of the opinion that the company isn’t Christian enough . . . primarily because it isn’t strict enough in its young-earth teaching. … This has made me wonder how many more state homeschooling organizations or even Home School Legal Defense, for that matter, who is also participating in the leadership summit, are taking it upon themselves to decide who is and isn’t Christian enough to participate in conferences, conventions, and support services for homeschooling families.” See also the source post by John Holzmann. “Ultimately, Sonlight received no written or full “official” explanation, but got the message: the convention committee was of the opinion that the company isn’t Christian enough . . . primarily because it isn’t strict enough in its young-earth teaching.” Holzmann goes on to say that B. B. Warfield, J. Vernon McGee, and James Dobson were/are “old earth creationists.”
  6. Mike Ratliff continues his series that I understand to be a call to suffer during the Obama administration. “I do understand that non-Christians are not regenerate and have no concept of the Holiness of God and the sinfulness of Man. I understand that and I do not expect the US Government to become conformed to Christian values. However, since this country was founded there has been conformity to Biblical moral standards in the laws and their enforcement. The Obama administration is set to do away with all of that. This would include a reversal of all restrictions on abortion and euthanasia.
  7. Ken Silva offers a quote from John Gresham Machen (1923) and applies it to Rob Bell. Chris Rosebrough has been making essentially the same argument (that emergents are liberals with new vocabularies) via his various outlets and also recommending Machen as applying to emergents.
  8. Christine at Talk Wisdom offers another post on the Bush-Obama transition and crowd reactions. “Their ugliness was in full force yesterday, as the ObamaBorg Bot Kool-Aid drinkers in the crowd jeered and verbally bashed President George W. Bush as he entered the inaugural festivities. These people could not even be respectful enough to just KEEP QUIET if they don’t like the former president.” Interested readers who are having a hard time following the cultural references here, “Borg” refers to a collective of baddies from one of the Star Trek television franchises, not the liberal theologian of the same name, and the reference to Kool-Aid should be taken as a reference to the method of murder/suicide employed by Peoples Temple (Jonestown, Guyana), rather than an actual reference to the consumption of reconstituted soft drinks by people at the inauguration. I hope this helps.
  9. Howard Fisher links to Gerald Warner’s editorial in the Telegraph (UK) regarding the Obama inauguration. “What we are experiencing, in the deepening days of a global depression, is the desperate suspension of disbelief by people of intelligence – la trahison des clercs – in a pathetic effort to hypnotise themselves into the delusion that it will be all right on the night. It will not be all right.”
  10. Scott Ragan offers a contrary opinion regarding Sunday night services on Super Bowl Sunday. “I am not sure that this poor church was aware of the fact that by doing what they have done, they have declared their allegiance to “the gods of the NFL” and have turned their back on the God of the Bible.”
  11. Dorothy Anderson collects Emergent links regarding orthodoxy as a social construct.
  12. Steve Hays dissects federal headship (and its cousin, corporate guilt) in the age of Obama.
  13. Emergent Village offers a collection of clips from Rob Bell’s “The Gods Aren’t Angry” tour (YouTube).
  14. Christine at Talk Wisdom introduces something called Obama Schizophrenic Syndrome.
  15. Anton Hein-Hudson offers an introductory article on C. Peter Wagner/New Apostolic Reformation. Note: I finally figured out why I was incorrectly attributing Apologetics Index articles to Richard Abanes; that shouldn’t be happening again.
  16. Ingrid Schlueter has a rough night’s sleep. “The media bias for Obama has lapsed into farce. CNN is one of the worst. I think they’re on his staff. His new cabinet was called a “dream team” yesterday. Yes, a nightmare. Before the Inaugural ball, I knew they would call Michelle Obama’s gown, “stunning!” Sure enough. Yesterday morning CNN reported on her gown as being, “stunning.” If she’d worn a burlap sack, the drooling media elite would have found it to be “stunning” as well. I don’t think I can stomach this anymore.”
  17. Sharon Lindbloom offers comments on Mormon reactions in the wake of Proposition 8 and the Focus on the Family/Glenn Beck flap, reminds us all we need to be civil when dealing with Mormons. “It would be foolish to say people never cross the line when debating Mormonism vs. Christianity, but in my experience such conversations are nearly always civil and respectful.”
  18. Michael Newnham weighs in on Rick Warren’s use of the Islamic name for Jesus. “The Muslim Isa is not my Jesus…in their doctrine he was not crucified for the sins of the world but was a forerunner of Muhammad.”
  19. And finally, someone named Muammar Qaddafi recommends a “one-state solution” to the Israel/Palestinian situation (Reuters). “Assimilation is already a fact of life in Israel. There are more than one million Muslim Arabs in Israel; they possess Israeli nationality and take part in political life with the Jews, forming political parties. On the other side, there are Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Israeli factories depend on Palestinian labor, and goods and services are exchanged. This successful assimilation can be a model for Isratine.”
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OD Today: 20 January 2009 (late edition)

January 20, 2009

Same day, same issues, more or less: lots of reaction to the Obama inaugural. I’m facing a long night, so I’m posting a short update here.

  1. Ingrid Schlueter quotes Albert Mohler on American religion, meaning (more or less) Christianity as it is filtered through American values. “As much as Christians in this blessed nation should respect and cherish our democratic ideals and system of government, we must keep ever in mind that the Kingdom of God is ruled by a higher and infinitely more perfect law and system of governance. Be warned: God is not running for office, and heaven is not a democracy.”
  2. Tim Challies offers links a la carte as he does most every day; a couple of them are “1.20.09” related, including John Piper‘s advice on being pro-life under a pro-choice president (circa 1992).
  3. Lighthouse Trails excerpts an article by Berit Kjos warning against creeping Socialism. Kjos connects a number of dots (Hitler, Stalin, Rick Warren, and Barack Obama), but mostly warns against (if I am reading her correctly) the quest for solidarity and common ground as ingredients in a recipe for totalitarianism.
  4. Terry Mattingly parses some numbers regarding the popularity of Barack Obama’s decision to invite Rick Warren to pray at his inauguration. “By the way, did I read that right? Did a higher percentage of DEMOCRATS favor the Warren choice than Republicans?”
  5. Confessing Lutheran Mollie Hemingway offers yet another take on more or less the same story we’ve seen in the 2004 Cathleen Falsani interview with Barack Obama and related articles. “The ultimate civil religion president, perhaps?”
  6. Desert Pastor recaps, comments on Rick Warren’s prayer. “Good ending by concluding in the name of Jesus (and the inclusion of the Muslim, Spanish, and Hebrew variations of Jesus). I am just afraid that this man has chosen to misrepresent the true nature of God and His Only Begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ!”
  7. Ken Silva puts Queermergent into context within his ongoing study of Phyllis Tickle and the Emergent Church, also mentions Peter Rollins and Adele Sakler.
  8. John Sexton excerpts Barack Obama’s inaugural address. “Will he deliver [safety] or will he make the same mistakes previous Democratic Presidents have made? With Gaza in flames and Iran on the verge of constructing its first nukes, I think we’ll know soon enough.”
  9. Terry Mattingly catches ABC News fumbling a Rick Warren reference to a “great cloud of witnesses” as being a reference to Martin Luther King Jr.
  10. Rich at Take Up Your Cross offers a term for a religion with Barack Obama as its Messiah: “Obamianity.” “In the minds of many people, our new President has been elevated to an almost Messiah-like status.”
  11. Christine at Talk Wisdom takes up the question of Bible Codes referring to the new President. I’d completely forgotten about Bible Codes. Completely.

Why didn’t somebody at one of the the various conservative news sources dig up the Falsani interview in (say) September 2008?

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OD Today: 9 January 2009 (late edition)

January 9, 2009

Today we’ve got a bumper crop of links. Marcus Borg appears out of nowhere and everybody’s interested in him. Go figure.

  1. Daniel Pulliam discusses a Tribune article on Trinity United Church of Christ now that the Obamas have left. “I knew we would come out better and stronger for enduring the attack. Now we can accomplish what Rev. Wright wants. We can accomplish what Rev. Moss wants. We can accomplish what God wants.”
  2. Stuff Christians Like post 469, about being pastor or staff: “Can you keep complex counts in multiples of 2s, 3s, and 4s but can’t remember how many times in a row you’ve sung a song?” (Then you might be a worship leader.)
  3. Yomi at Theology Today calls out false prophets. “Now think clearly about it: every Chris, Enoch, Matthew, and David are claiming to be anointed ones all over the place. Such a claim was not made by even those specially chosen by Jesus to lay the foundation of the Church. None of the apostles claimed to be “anointed ones”, though they had more right to the claim than anyone else!” (I had originally accused Yomi of not naming names here; these are apparently the first names of prominent people in Nigeria. Please see the comments.)
  4. David Reagan offers part four of his series on whether the Antichrist is Muslim. “Another misleading aspect of Richardson’s presentation is his constant talk about the “amazing parallels” and “startling similarities” between Islamic and biblical end time prophecies. Actually, there is nothing startling or amazing when you consider the fact that Mohammed borrowed nearly all his key ideas from Bible stories he heard from both Jews and Christians, stories he often got thoroughly confused.”
  5. Religion News Blog is still on the Jett Travolta/Scientology story. Why don’t any ODMs pick this up?
  6. Underdog Theology shares an illustration from John MacArthur, taken from a story by Anton Chekov. Why must The Truth be illustrated by fiction?
  7. Herescope sees planned African food voucher programs as creeping Communitarianism and an attempt to undermine local churches in Africa.
  8. Kris at Sovereign Grace Ministries Survivors says Sovereign Grace Ministries have called in a third party (Ken Sande’s Peacemakers) to arrange reconciliation with the Noel/Grizzly situation. Kris asks a bunch of rhetorical questions I won’t repeat here. “Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad that SGM finally got around to taking an action – involving Sande and his organization – that apparently acknowledges that they may not have handled Noel’s situation appropriately. But so many questions remain.”
  9. Jeremy Nelson jumps on the Billy Graham clip Ken Silva commented on earlier in the day, says “Not a surprise from a Freemason.”
  10. Jonathan Dodson picks up the New Atheist British ad campaign.
  11. John Chishem offers the latest installment of his review of Jesus Wants To Save Christians. Unlike most ODMs he allows comments on his site, and he’s drawn some attention from Emergent types.
  12. Chris Lyons offers random thoughts on Israel. “Thus, when someone says “can you give me the short answer”, my answer is “I don’t think there is one”…”
  13. Darryl Foster opens for comments on megachurches in general. “I dont think the “megachurch” model currently reigning as the desired after church standard is biblical. I think after a while it will run its course and become a religious dinosaur. I think all those who have built their careers on megachurch mentality will be in a spiritual soupline. What do you think?”
  14. Chris Rosebrough shares a clip featuring Marcus Borg (YouTube).
  15. Scott McClare collects links, including Albert Mohler on the atheist ad campaign.
  16. Terry Mattingly (not an ODM) on the treatment of facts and opinions, particularly editorial shortcomings when hard facts are abundant. This sort of speaks to what I’m trying to get at in item 6 above.
  17. Dave Marriott begins a review of a book by Marcus Borg. “Borg holds that Jesus is the decisive revelation of God (even “more decisive than the Bible”), but yet he admits that a human body cannot display omnipotence or omniscience, characteristics he knows to be true concerning God. Where did he get this conception of God if not from the Jesus?”
  18. Phil Perkins issues apologies and corrections. “some have asked if I believe that anything but a word-for-word translation is a sin or incorrect. No, I don’t. In fact, some of my readers are multi-lingual, so I know that they know there is not such thing as a word-for-word translation unless the document is very short. No two languages have vocabulary with a one-to-one correlation and no two languages have identical grammar and syntax. Literal, word-for-word translation is preferred, but never possible in all situations.”
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OD Today: 9 January 2009 (early edition)

January 9, 2009

There were lots of links overnight, and I’m running behind.

  1. From Mike Wittmer, the last word regarding Ed Dobson. Dobson deals with the problems regarding his appearance on Good Morning America, namely his support for pro-life issues, his voting for Barack Obama and his consumption of alcohol, which is important because of his position at Cornerstone University. Kudos to Dobson, for responding to the questions people raised, and to Wittmer, for relating and responding to Dobson’s words directly.
  2. Steve Knight regarding litmus tests, essentials, and non-essentials. “The very first thing they wanted to know was my stand on homosexuality, my opinions about abortion, and my beliefs about the Bible. I don’t think I passed.”
  3. Phil Miller discusses LifeWay Christian Stores’ new Read With Discernment program. “(I will note, though, that it does seem somewhat hypocritical to continue to sell a product you think dangerous enough to require a warning label).”
  4. John Baker links to a video purportedly showing Hamas killing people at a wedding for playing music, footage of men being rounded up, Fox News footage of people dancing in the streets in East Jerusalem on September 11, 2001, and Islamist propaganda videos (YouTube).
  5. Defending Contending calls out Guitar Praise (a Rock Band knock-off with Christian Music). “I also wonder if this is being marketed to the underground Church in Communist countries.”
  6. Christian Research Net shares a link to Stacy Campbell blessing Todd Bentley (YouTube), “who are Emerging Christ-followers, or any believers in Jesus the Evangelist for that matter, to think this use of Scripture and prophecy by people who “love” Jesus could be wrong.”
  7. Four Pointer at Defending Contending shares quotes from Mormon texts. “The purpose of this post is not to “bash” Mormons, but rather to show them that they have not been told the truth about the history of what the former leaders taught and practiced.”
  8. Ken Silva calls out Billy Graham for being a closet universalist. “Graham announces, and he far from alone is this, “everybody that loves Christ, or knows Christ, whether they’re conscious of it or not, they’re members of the Body of Christ.” Zow-ee; now we even have salvation via osmosis with none of that nasty ol’ preaching of the Gospel.”
  9. Orrin Judd shares a column by Irshad Manji from the Globe and Mail, calling for Muslims to embrace independent thinking. “Still unable to draw the link between self-protection and suicide, I proposed this analogy: ‘If my boss steals my job and I kill myself because something that is mine has been taken away, am I a martyr?’ Horrified, the translator shook his head. ‘No, no, you can’t ask this.'”
  10. Ralph Petersen shares a story of false hope. “I thought about the gospel appeal as described at Tom’s memorial service. What was the object? What was the compelling argument for faith? It was just the hope of heaven and the reunion of the family. There was nothing about Jesus or the forgiveness of sin or his need for a savior. As I looked around the room, I noticed that there were several who had never heard the gospel and this memorial service was a lost opportunity.” Petersen doesn’t give Tom’s last name or identify the pastor officiating at the memorial service.
  11. Jeremy Nelson at Renewing Our Minds shares a couple of clips from the Alex Jones expose of Bohemian Grove (1, 2) and his own video clip about occult symbols, etc.
  12. Dwayna Litz shares quotes from John Shelby Spong. “When you ask about “believing in Jesus Christ as your personal savior” you are using stylized evangelical language. That language has no appeal at all for me. To assert the role of savior for Jesus implies a definition of human life as sinful, fallen and helpless. It assumes the ancient myth that proclaimed that we were created perfect only to fall into sin from which we need to be rescued. It was a popular definition before people understood about our evolutionary background. We have been evolving toward humanity for billions of years. “
  13. E. E. Evans discusses press coverage of the British atheist advertising campaign. “What is a “non-religious belief”? I’d also like to see some independent corroboration of those statistics.”
  14. Phil Naessens continues discussing preterism, asks where the New Heaven and New Earth are. “If righteousness dwells in this new heaven and new earth, as Peter points out then how come there is so much unrighteousness in this new heaven and new earth?”
  15. Chris Rosebrough responds to listener comments, repeats that Barack Obama is a Christian, says George W. Bush and Glenn Beck are not (podcast).
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OD Today: 8 January 2009 (late edition)

January 8, 2009

Really nothing but continuing stories in this update; Desert Pastor (see item 14) summarizes the views of most everything I’ve heard or read from conservative Christians regarding the current conflict in and around Gaza.

  1. Chris Rosebrough says Barack Obama “is a Christian” even if he is heterodox (podcast, at about 23:00).
  2. The Frog in the Kettle says God is not blessing America. “God stopped blessing us many many years ago.  Perhaps He’s restraining His judgement upon us or we’re benefiting from His mercy, but c’mon, do we really think He’s blessing us? … take it for what its worth, just a gimmick used by career politicians to trick you into thinking they’re on your side, they’re like you.”
  3. Ingrid Schlueter calls out cowboy churches. “A cutting-edge idea would be to have a dual-theme church where men and boys go off to the pirate service and women and girls go to a Disney princess service. There could even be some dramatic interplay between the two where pirates kidnap a damsel and Prince Charming rides into the service on his white horse to rescue the maiden. The sermon potential here is rich.” She also manages to tie in Rick Warren and says “If people have a problem with long sermons and being taught about sin and hell, their greatest need is not accommodation—it is repentance. Sadly, few will hear that message in these circus-driven churches.”
  4. Justin Taylor lists life highlights for Richard John Neuhaus (1936-2009), including Evangelicals and Catholics Together (1994).
  5. Dwayna Litz on women teaching men. “See Acts 18:26—Priscilla taught a man!”
  6. David Reagan presents part three of his series on the question of whether the Antichrist is a Muslim. “Next, he claims that since Antiochus Epiphanes — a type of the Antichrist — came from the Seleucid or Assyrian area of the Grecian Empire (Syria and Iraq), the Antichrist must also come from that area.”
  7. Christine at Talk Wisdom says Barack Obama will turn America’s back on Israel. “I think that Israel already knows that her security will mostly fall upon Her own shoulders once Obama is in office. The steadfast loyalty, security, unconditional stance and friendship of the United States government (of the past) with Israel might (tragically) be severely at risk.”
  8. Ingrid Schlueter endorses home schooling, Abeka, and Bob Jones Press. “As a homeschooling parent for a number of years, I can tell you that it is possible to have top-drawer Christian education in your own home. … The peer segregation in churches and schools today breeds rebellion and disregard for adults and authority. … The biblical model is for the older to teach the younger.”
  9. Phil Perkins concludes his series on Online Discernment Ministries; he offers advice on how to fix ODMs and calls out Frank Turk. “Of HUGE CONCERN to most ODMers is the loss of formerly “Christian” institutions, like denominations, colleges, and seminaries. Did you know that God isn’t concerned about it?  He isn’t.”
  10. Ingrid Schlueter extolls the virtues of being old-fashioned. “Those of us who still have appreciation for the old ways that worked will have to band together. There aren’t very many of us!”
  11. Dave Hunt warns regarding the National Council of Churches‘ year-old warning regarding Christian Zionism. Does anyone call himself a Christian Zionist? Or is it always pejorative? “In fact, according to the NCC, Christian Zionist support for Israel is the main stumbling block to tranquility in the Middle East.”
  12. Ken Silva proclaims a split in Evangelicalism. “The time has come in the American Christian Church for division; for a reformation every bit the same as when Luther stood hammer in hand. Since my time is looking as if it’s nearing an end I’ll simply say that someone must arise and declare that there is no way to harmonize what you will hear in the following sermon from Dr. John MacArthur with the egregiously ecumenical postliberal cult of the Emerging Church and postevangelicalism, which is right now completely swallowing up centered on the self semi-pelagian evangelicalism.”
  13. Ingrid Schlueter advertises a Crosstalk interview with Albert Mohler. “I believe that legalized child-killing and homosexuality issue are the defining moral issues facing the church today. The impotent response of God’s people to these abominations are resulting in God’s judgment on our land.” Mohler will be pushing a book.
  14. And finally: Gaza updates and analysis from Desert Pastor and Joel Rosenberg.

OD Today: 7 January 2009 (early edition)

January 7, 2009

There may or may not be a late edition today; work is crazy busy and I may not have time for a second pass today.

There’s a lot of meat here, and I mean a lot. Only the John Crowder story is really new, but there’s barely a dud in the bunch today.

  1. Thomas Heringer is reading Francis Schaeffer’s book How Should We Then Live? and blames the current state of the United States on its cultural inheritance from Greece and Rome. “We refuse today to put the ten commandments into our schools and courts, because of the mistaken view that this would violate separation of church and state. Instead we rely on the word of man, which changes daily if not moment by moment. We have even gone so far as to put Christ on the back burner in our churches and have opted instead for man made programs, such as The Purpose Driven life.”
  2. John Baker links to this slideshow from Aish.com on the Arab-Israeli conflict. “The goal of the Arabs is the destruction of the Jews.”
  3. Henry Neufeld offers a post and links on evangelical Christianity and evangelism from an atheist perspective. “The trouble is, it’s often the behavior of the messenger much more than the honesty of the beliefs that often offends other people.”
  4. Watcher’s Lamp links to a column in the Salt Lake Tribune (originally from Bloomberg) by Paul Kennedy on global financial prospects for 2009. “The biggest question concerns the United States. My instinct tells me it will lose ground in 2009. I simply don’t see how the Treasury can print $1 trillion to cover deficit spending, offer those bills at very low interest rates, and expect foreigners (not Americans, because we don’t have the savings) to buy them, persuading the world to keep afloat its greatest debtor since Phillip II of Spain. … Yet if Asians decline to buy tens of billions of Treasuries each month in 2009, U.S. interest rates will have to go up again. “
  5. John Chishem continues his review of Jesus Wants To Save Christians, by Rob Bell and Don Golden. “Bell does not like government, specifically, Bell does not like government that does not function within his view of the purpose of government, which is a very liberal one, from my reading. … Clearly, Bell has a low view of the need of the military and the use of force to protect the gifts and the country, and those who are poor and oppressed, which God has entrusted to the rulers.”
  6. Dwayna Litz shares email in response to her earlier post regarding Gary Gilley’s review of Tim Keller’s book; the unnamed author is concerned about ecumenicism and syncreticism: “We used to pray for the nations through the book Operation World by Patrick Johnstone, but it was always disturbing to find him including Catholics, Orthodox, and other non-saved “Christians” within the statistical percentage of Christians in each country. We also observed the shift in missions from “conversion out of” to “adding Jesus within” other religions as missionaries would redefine pagan religious practice and teaching to “Christianize” them. “
  7. Thomas Ice discussses the history of the doctrine of the pre-Tribulation rapture of the Church prior to John Nelson Darby.
  8. Ingrid Schlueter calls out Glenview New Church of Glenview, Illinois for their Summary of Beliefs. “I have news for them. This isn’t Christianity at all but an apostate counterfeit.” This is a somewhat measured response from Schlueter given that Glenview New Church is universalist and Swedenborgian.
  9. Yet another emergent/emerging Christian expresses doubts about global warming.
  10. Dwayna Litz links to and excerpts Sidney Dyer regarding N. T. Wright, author of the New Perspective on Paul, Wright’s ecumenicism, and his new perspective on the Gospel. “A major problem with Wright is that, if he does hold to Christ’s vicarious atonement, he believes Christ died for and will save all men.”
  11. Jason Lisle calls atheism irrational. “In other words, if atheism were true, it would be impossible to prove anything!” I haven’t worked through the details, but I think I smell an excluded middle.
  12. Ken Silva recaps his positions on contemplative prayer, etc. and explains why he focuses only on points of disagreement with other writers. “Those familiar with AM know I’ve referred to that style of writing as the plus/minus approach. It’s by far the most common method, which no doubt you’ve seen many times. One begins by listing the 3-5 good things about a given subject, this is then followed by the 8-10 bad things, in order to reach the foregone conclusion that they can’t recommend said subject. And as I’ve said before it’s not wrong; however, I just chose to leave out the often patronizing step one is all.”
  13. Anton and/or Janet Hein-Hudson on John Crowder. “The essence of John Crowder’s ‘ministry’ appears to be this: experience over doctrine.” I didn’t note it at the time because it was a clip without comments, but Chris Rosebrough linked to this same video clip yesterday. It was also a major chunk of yesterday’s Fighting for the Faith podcast.
  14. Phil Perkins offers the second installment in his series regarding Online Discernment Ministries. “Nevertheless, there are some in the ODM world who aren’t even saved. The proof is in their lives. Part I dealt with two sins currently rampant. One is a general looseness in ethics. … The second sin is rooted in team spirit of a sorts.”
  15. James White pounds the table regarding Tim Staples and his “33,000 Protestant denominations” claim, and reviews an appearance by Bart Ehrman (audio).
  16. Chris Rosebrough calls out Pam Shepherd of First Congregational Church of Christ in Ashland, Oregon for refusing to marry heterosexual couples unless and until homosexual couples are able to marry too.
  17. Job at Jesus Christology asks whether Israel has a right to exist as a nation. “it is my proposal that Old Testament Israel’s right to exist as a unique sovereign political entity tied to the land that was formerly Canaan ended by virtue of their breaking the Sinai covenant….”
  18. Boyd Miller on tithing and bankruptcy; USA Today article here. There are some interesting numbers regarding tithing here, but the main story, about people who go into bankruptcy while still tithing, sounds anecdotal.
  19. Roderick Edwards, former preterist, gives an overview of preterism and distinguishes between preterism and hyper-preterism. “The present day versions of hyperpreterism all originated in the 1970s with a man named Max King. King was a “church of Christ” minister who wrote several hyperpreterist books in the 1970-1980s. Hyperpreterism before that was mainly manifested among Universalists.”
  20. Cindy Kunsman gives some background on the Shepherding movement. “All of the Shepherding/Discipleship groups observed this focus on submission and the “umbrella of protection” concept to varying degrees and continue to do so, despite the fact that shepherding was theoretically denounced and renounced by most Evangelical leaders and some of the leaders of shepherding themselves.”
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OD Today: 5 January 2009 (late edition)

January 5, 2009

Everything proceeds apace today except for a couple of stories we’ve discussed here hitting the greater blogosphere and the Sovereign Grace Ministries abuse story. See below.

  1. Darryl Foster recounts contacting Beulah Heights University regarding Lewis Tait, an adjunct professor who signed the Equal Partners in Faith “Open Letter to Martin Luther King, Jr,” which reads in part “The “whosoever” of today are the diseased and the dis-eased, the discomforted and the distressed, those who live on the margins of the marginalized, who are the oppressed of the oppressed, the sexually battered and the abused, the homeless and the bereft, the HIV/AIDS infected, who are the young and old, female and male, lesbian and bisexual, transgender and straight. These are they, the children of God.” Foster’s comments include “We wanted to know why Dr. Tait signed the letter and if he still advocated homosexual rights as an instructor at a Christian Bible College.  Tait is a former member of the United Church of Christ, the first Christian denomination to openly ordain gay christians. The UCC is also home to Jeremiah Wright and lesbian bishop Yvette Flunder.”
  2. Michael Davis comments on vandalism at Most Holy Redeemer Catholic Church, Diamond Street, San Francisco. “These activists are actually helping those of us who support traditional marriage.”
  3. Jeremy at Renewing Our Minds shares a link for The God Makers II (Google Video).
  4. Jim Hamilton calls on preachers to preach the superscriptions to the Psalms. “the choice to ignore the superscriptions of the Psalms is nothing less than a radical text critical decision to exclude from consideration evidence that is in the text.”
  5. Michael Newnham picks up Noel’s Story at Sovereign Grace Ministries Survivors. Be warned that the story at SGMS is disturbing and involves (allegations of) child molesting and church coverup.
  6. Beaconlight at A Peculiar Pilgrim offers a summary/review of all seven volumes of C. S. Lewis‘s Chronicles of Narnia.
  7. Four Pointer shares a Rick Warren video on unholy alliances. “I guess Warren doesn’t practice what he preaches, having invited such people as Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton (both unabashedly pro-abortion) to speak at his church and removing any reference to homosexuality as being a sin from the Saddleback website.”
  8. Ken Silva offers part two of his response to Margaret Manning of Ravi Zacharias International Missions: “One can listen to mystic dreamers like Foster and Nouwen if they want to, but, I’ve got real news for you; what you just read above—from God Himself through Paul—is your authentic, true, real, sinful, and wicked, self.” He also reminds his readers that the Protestant Reformation was The Lord’s Reformation, and both Henri Nouwen and Thomas Merton were Catholic, while Martin Luther repudiated the Roman Catholic Church.
  9. Christine from Talk Wisdom comments on this past weekend’s Fox News special on Mosab Hassan Yousef: “One of the reasons why I might doubt this former Hamas member’s conversion is because I did not see (at the article link), nor hear (during the documentary) that he has been born again in Jesus Christ.”
  10. Job at Jesus Christology continues asking questions about Israel and the Palestinians, looking at God’s covenant with Israel. “Though I reject premillennial dispensationalism, I acknowledge the historical legitimacy of other forms of premillennialism, and I do not subscribe  to amillennialism, preterism, covenant theology, nor do I subscribe to replacement theology in its classic sense..”
  11. Kurt Nimmo (not an ODM) connects the dots between Pat Robertson’s recent comments on Barack Obama and socialism and Pat’s 1991 book The New World Order. “Last week, Robertson claimed to have a conversation with God and in this revelation — Robertson makes predictions based on his supposed conversations with God at the start of the new year — the preacher was told the “people will welcome socialism in order to relieve their pain. Nothing will stand in the way of a plan by Obama to restructure the economy in the same fashion as the New Deal in the ’30s.””
  12. Ron Paul (not an ODM) picks up the Stowers/Manna Storehouse story. Does anyone know the Stowers’ religious affiliation?

OD Today: 3 January 2009 (early edition)

January 3, 2009

Because of the large number of links left from yesterday, and the fact that it’s probably difficult to read or even scan a list of thirty-plus links, I’m going to try breaking today’s posts into two or more pieces.

  1. Crosstalk America’s podcast is updating a couple of days at a time. Part of yesterday’s episode is Paris Reidhead‘s sermon “Ten Shekels and a Shirt” (SermonIndex.net). He contrasts 19th-century liberalism/humanism and Fundamentalism, and calls both selfishness and not Christianity. He also calls Fundamentalism “Utilitarian Christianity.” “If all you repented for was to stay out of hell, all you are is a Levite serving for ten shekels and a shirt.”
  2. Kit continue dealing with the movie Zeitgeist, links to an article from Always Be Ready that aggregates the responses from various theologians.
  3. David Hocking updates the Israel/Hamas conflict, including the death of Nizar Rayyan.
  4. La Shawn Barber talks about a draft bill in South Carolina that would give women seeking an abortion the option of seeing a free ultrasound first.
  5. Underdog Theology gives Donald Whitney’s definition of the term “evangelical.”
  6. Michael Davis notes the Gideons‘ 100th anniversary: “1.5 billion scriptures in 187 different countries and in 85 languages, including 76.8 million distributions last year alone.”
  7. Defending Contending links to a Wolf Blitzer/CNN interview with Charles Barkley; story with summary here. In this interview, from February 2008, Barkley says the Republican Party is full of “fake Christians.”
  8. Ken Silva presents the first in what he promises will be a series of responses to a letter to one of his readers from Margaret Manning (of Ravi Zacharias International Ministries) regarding Henri Nouwen.
  9. Miriam Franklin opens a can of worms regarding what some people call “eternal security” and others “once saved, always saved.”
  10. Underdog Theology links to Donald Whitney’s paper on the boundaries of Evangelical Spirituality regarding spiritual disciplines.
  11. Chris Rosebrough calls Tadd Grandstaff (Pine Ridge Church)’s Christmas sermon the worst Christmas sermon of 2008. Be warned that the embedded video starts automatically.
  12. Brian Thornton says Rick Warren should plead for mercy on behalf of the nation during the Obama inaugural invocation. “IF the gospel is true, and faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ, then the ONLY loving thing Rick Warren should do in his invocation is to plead with God to save Barack Obama and all others who have not been born again to a living hope.”
  13. Cindy Kunsman asks if spiritual abuse is biblical, gives two summaries, from Ron Henzel and David Henke.
  14. Miriam Franklin parses Rick Joyner‘s teaching that 2008 was the beginning of the Church of the Last Days.
  15. Orrin Judd links to an article by Roger Scruton on the New Atheists and the strength of their arguments. “But what exactly does modern science tell us, and just where does it conflict with the premises of religious belief?”
  16. Dwayna Litz comments on the death of Jett Travolta, and links to an older article on Scientology.
  17. The latest installment of Fighting For The Faith Radio is available; I haven’t heard it and can’t comment beyond what’s in the show notes.
  18. John Sexton says Newsweek has Bush Derangement Syndrome on the basis of a sidebar ad.
  19. The latest episode of The Dividing Line is available for download.
  20. James White shares a letter from a Mormon convert to Christianity. “Sometime after that, after I had determined that the LDS church was false, I had become saved through reading some Josh McDowell materials.” The author also has some kind words for White.
  21. John Kubicek shares a Henry Lamb column from World Net Daily regarding a United Nations sustainable development initiative called Agenda 21. “We don’ t have much time left, folks. Barack Obama will be going right along with Agenda 21, and I’m pretty sure he’ll get it started as soon as he can eliminate the 1st and 2nd Amendments.”
  22. Phil Naessens shares the video for the Brian McLaren appearance on the Bleeding Purple podcast, in which McLaren says the doctrine of hell flies in the face of the Gospel. Note: the video is just the podcast audio plus still photos.
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OD Today: 2 January 2009

January 1, 2009

Today the new year begins in earnest; let’s hope we’re done with recaps, resolutions, and top ten lists.

  1. Kat summarizes New Age perspectives on the Rapture.
  2. Wendy at Joyfully Growing in Grace takes on the question of interpreting Paul’s writings, particularly Romans 14, using the Torah within the Hebrew Roots Movement. “t’s become clear that the concept is not uncommon among several facets in the Law-keeping community, including but not limited to those in the Hebrew Roots Movement, “Messianics”, Seventh Day Adventism, and Church of God sects.”
  3. Kit shares a link to The Keith Green Story.
  4. Dwayna Litz connects the dots between the New Age group The Fellowship of Friends and contemplative prayer. She also links to an older article where she calls out J. P. Moreland for his endorsement of spiritual disciplines. “Isn’t it clear that ‘practicing the presence’ is for those who are not indwelt with the presence of Christ through the Holy Spirit? There is no need to ‘practice’ a ‘presence’ when the perfect God of the universe dwells within you in all of His perfection.” Her discussion of this issue is as clear and succinct in its elaboration of ODMs objections to contemplation as I’ve seen.
  5. Ken Silva calls out Focus on the Family for recommending The Message via its brio magazine.
  6. Dwayna Litz shares verses for confronting New Agers. “A typical “spiritual” seeker of “esoteric Christianity” would read what he or she likes and not read the verses that convict of sin and tell of the depravity of people apart from Jesus.”
  7. James Swan responds to Patrick Madrid (Catholic Answers Live)’s interpretation of the woman “clothed in the sun” in Revelation 12 as being Mary, the mother of Jesus. “This is a striking example of private interpretation. Rome’s apologists may claim to be part of a monolithic church in which all her devoted apologists are on the same page, but when one surveys their writings it becomes quite obvious such is not the case.”
  8. James White takes on the question of whether Mormonism is Christian; his primary thesis is that Mormonism is polytheistic and Christianity is monotheistic (YouTube).
  9. John Kubicek links to The Farahness Doctrine, Joseph Farah’s Christian Libertarian manifesto.
  10. John Kubicek picks up the story of Igor Panarin and his prediction of the breakup of the United States in 2010 (Wall Street Journal).
  11. John Kubicek picks up the story of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, two Border Patrol agents George W. Bush has declined to pardon (World Net Daily).
  12. Dorothy Anderson asks what hyper-preterists do with the Devil. “The question is – who or what is/was Satan? Is he still active today? How do they define him/it?”
  13. Dorothy Anderson asks what creeds hyper-preterists can affirm. “What has happened in hyper-preterism is their eschatological (end times) position requires them to redefine, or at best reschedule the resurrection and after 25+ years, they still have no unified solution to offer.”
  14. Jeremy at Renewing Our Minds links to an article about the difference between a recession and a depression, and the question of which describes the current economic climate (Economist).
  15. Jeremy at Renewing Our Minds links to a couple of Gaza-related articles: one on dangers to Israeli nuclear plants, another on Hamas battle plans. With lots of links.
  16. Miriam Franklin summarizes the return of Todd Bentley.
  17. Michael Newnham asks, among other things, why conservative Christian supporters of Israel don’t demand Israel change its religious policies. “Do we deny a part of our faith by not demanding the freedom to proclaim Christ?”
  18. La Shawn Barber parses this news story, regarding a gang-rape. “Then it dawned on me. The races of the gang-raping thugs: three hispanic and one black. I’d venture a guess that the victim is white.”
  19. Cindy Kunsman offers a glossary regarding cults, cultism, and cultic groups.
  20. Jeremy at Renewing Our Minds links to a story claiming Republican National Committee members are considering accusing the outgoing President of socialism.
  21. Mike Ratliff offers an article by Arthur Pink on Present-Day Evangelism.
  22. Watcher’s Lamp links to a document from the Vatican titled “Fighting Poverty to Build Peace,” comments: “Looks like America’s Pastor, Rick Warren, has been echoing the message from the Vatican…” and another article on the head of the Roman Catholic Church offering a prayer to Mary, the mother of Jesus, on behalf of the global economy.
  23. Ingrid Schlueter links to this Yahoo article on inaugural prayers, repeats that the Obama inauguration story is about abortion: “Will God be moved if Rick Warren mouths the name of Jesus while asking for the blessing on America’s radical, pro-death President? What a farce this is.”
  24. Ingrid Schlueter passes on a picture of a large pro-life billboard in San Francisco.
  25. James Hutchens on Israel, Hamas, and proportionate force.
  26. Christine at Talk Wisdom offers a long article by Susan Smith of Life in Israel – One Body. “Because I am convinced the one Church body and Israel are one and the same, spiritually speaking, I changed the name to “Life in Israel-One Body.”
  27. John Sexton parses a Newsweek article on recent relations between the United States and Iran. “I predict that within a year this same idiot will cheer Obama on when we give Israel the go-ahead for preemptive strikes on Iran’s nuke capability. Wait and see. The rules are different for Democrats.”
  28. Bill Wilson on media coverage of Israel/Hamas. “While the news media is clamoring about how Israel is targeting civilians, the story of why some homes are targeted is totally missed. Hamas and the Palestinians house their weapons, command centers and leaders in civilian communities for two reasons…”
  29. Joel Rosenberg on the range of Hamas missiles. “There were growing fears in Israel last night that Hamas missiles could threaten its top-secret nuclear facility at Dimona.”
  30. Ken Silva links to a two-part teaching from John MacArthur on the sufficiency of Scripture.
  31. Chris Lyons comments on recent focus in Online Discernment on Universalism/Christian Universalism.
  32. La Shawn Barber on the Word of Promise Next Generation audio New Testament: “I just find it…wild, weird, and smart!”
  33. James Thomas on Ted Haggard and true repentance. “If we Mis-Represent the work and power of God through true Repentance then we His Church on earth will become the cause of shipwrecking the faith of many of His people, and even worse, lead the lost into the deepest and darkest pit that we ourselves are destine to fall in as we ourselves temble in right beside them.”
  34. Kit offers a response to the Zeitgeist movie.

And finally, another post from Rod Dreher on Arab reactions and rhetoric in Florida to the situation in Gaza. “Thus does jihadism manifest itself (once again) in America, despite the denial of bien-pensants.”

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OD Today: 1 January 2009

January 1, 2009

A new year, the same old struggle in new forms. With new stories and new links!

  1. Michael Davis on an attempt by Michael Newdow and an unnamed coalition of atheist groups to remove any reference to God from the Obama inaugural. “A majority of the framers of the Constitution were alive at the time and many were present at the first inauguration. Not one of them objected to the Prayers or the references to God. Obviously their understanding of the ’separation of church and state’ was considerably different than Dr. Newdow’s et al.”
  2. Jonathan Dodson asks whether attempting to redeem the culture (as opposed to separating or embracing) is biblical. “I think so, but we must be careful not to call the creation of Christian sub-culture redemption of culture; that, of course, is often just bad culture creation and Andy Crouch recently has helped us out with that. I say, redeem, but redeem wisely!”
  3. Jean at The Virtuous Woman shares her testimony: “but God performed a supernatural work in my heart and raised dead bones to life, and behold 5 years later after I had an abortion, I was saved!”
  4. Ken Silva takes on Glenn Beck and Jesus as he his portrayed in Mormonism: “And since the Bible gives us eyewitness depositions aka Gospels from eyewitnesses, the Apostles Matthew and John, we must conclude from the extant evidence the Mormon “Jesus” is not the real Jesus.”
  5. Chris Rosebrough offers the worst moments of 2008 (audio/podcast). This installment of Fighting For The Faith is 112 minutes long, and I haven’t heard it yet.
  6. Jason Garwood offers thoughts on redemption in Scripture. “It is virtually impossible to approach Scripture without presuppositions, and if that is the case, we might as well have some good ones.”
  7. Dwayna Litz shares a couple of Stanley Monteith’s Radio Liberty episodes regarding Jeff Sharlet’s book The Family.
  8. Dwayna Litz accuses Campus Crusade of creeping Dominionism.
  9. Truth Matters relays a link to a section of Paul Washer’s sermon Ten Indictments; he says a firm grasp of the doctrine of regeneration is more important than being a Calvinist, etc. and calls himself a “five-point Spurgeonist.”
  10. James White shares a half-hour video from Phoenix Reformed Baptist Church titled “Christian Contentment in 2009.”
  11. Beaconlight/Peculiar Pilgrim shares part one of a series of book reviews from 2008.
  12. Phil Naessens calls for a day of prayer for Rick Warren on January 15, 2009.
  13. Dan Cella starts a series on what Christians need to know about the American economy in 2009. “Regardless of our political affiliation, we need to be praying specifically for the Obama Administration.”
  14. Defending Contending offers a link to a 1968 debate between Walter Martin and Madalyn Murray O’Hair.
  15. John Kubicek links to a World Net Daily/Drew Zahn puff piece on Ann Coulter. 
  16. Aaron Shafovaloff offers a thought experiment in which a prominent Protestant and/or the head of the Roman Catholic Church switch positions on a controversial issue (e.g. homosexuality) and compares that to the pre-1978 Mormon ban on black priests. “So while you could conceivably hold me accountable for sticking around my local church while my local pastor was doing or saying horrible things, you can’t accuse me of being immoral for refusing to take responsibility for someone like Joel Osteen, Benny Hinn, Ted Haggard (let alone any dead guy), etc.”
  17. Frank Turk declares January 2009 Global Post-Scriptural Parable Month. He offers an example.
  18. Mollie Ziegler parses press coverage of the “virginity pledge” issue. “Here’s Fox News, for instance, saying that this very limited study actually proves that ‘Abstinence-only programs do not delay the onset of intercourse.’ This study didn’t even look at abstinence-only education programs. It looked at abstinence pledges, which may or may not be a part of abstinence-only education programs.”
  19. Orrin Judd comments very briefly on a Georgie Anne Geyer column at the Washington Times about the exit interviews the outgoing President and Vice President have been doing. “He governed Texas as a compassionate conservative, ran for president as a compassionate conservative, governed America as a compassionate conservative, and leaves office proud of his record of compassionate conservatism. What could be more mysterious to the sufferer of [Bush Derangement Syndrome]?”
  20. Orrin Judd excerpts a Larry Elder column giving the history of “Barack Obama as Magic Negro.” “Elections are all about narrative and Mr. Obama just happened to fit the contours of a stock character from our cultural tradition.” For the record, I consider the term “magic Negro” distasteful and hope the ODMs give the whole narrative a miss.
  21. Orrin Judd parses a Mirko Bagaric column about Hamas, Israel, and the targeting of civilians in Gaza and Israel: “In a clash between Hamas and Israel both sides are justified–Israel ought to be allowed to live in piece by neighboring peoples and Hamas ought to be allowed to govern the nation of Palestine–but neither will achieve its aim by fighting the other, so casualties are justified, but inappropriate.”
  22. Julio Severo shares a column he contributed to LifeSiteNews about “contraceptive culture and prophecies in Revelation:” “Sanger also had profound links to Nazism.”
  23. Dwayna Litz comments on the Hebrew Roots movement and links to another article by Wendy at Joyfully Growing in Grace Ministries. Her link is broken, but I think it’s supposed to go here. “these HR followers have been given the true and “hidden” meanings of Scripture, as opposed to what the mainstream church has been teaching down through the centuries, or they profess to be enlightening us to the true meanings of Scripture which have gotten “lost” since the time of Jesus and the first century after His death.” She also deals with Hebrew Roots in an older article here.
  24. Roger Oakland shares his top 25 issues of the year for 2008. Anyone looking for a good primer on ODMs would do well to start with this list and Oakland’s summary.
  25. John Baker links to an article on Eddie Long’s Obama inauguration party.
  26. Dwayna Litz links to two posts by Cindy Kunsman, one on the Council for National Policy and another on Geoffrey Botkin/the Shepherding movement.
  27. Cindy Kunsman discusses two models for cults.
  28. Ken Silva shares email from a contrary point of view and his response regarding Mormon doctrine.
  29. Darryl Foster gives a Top 15 gay christian lies and promises to give Scripture for each item in a later post.
  30. Truth Matters gives quotes from Michael Horton’s book Christless Christianity.
  31. Darryl Foster shares a video from Celebration Church.

What’s new today? The Michael Newdow/inauguration issue, the Hebrew Roots Movement, and that’s about it. I need to do a longer piece on Jeff Sharlet’s book, and another on Dominionism as it is viewed by different groups, but not yet.