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OD Today: 9 January 2009 (early edition)

January 9, 2009

There were lots of links overnight, and I’m running behind.

  1. From Mike Wittmer, the last word regarding Ed Dobson. Dobson deals with the problems regarding his appearance on Good Morning America, namely his support for pro-life issues, his voting for Barack Obama and his consumption of alcohol, which is important because of his position at Cornerstone University. Kudos to Dobson, for responding to the questions people raised, and to Wittmer, for relating and responding to Dobson’s words directly.
  2. Steve Knight regarding litmus tests, essentials, and non-essentials. “The very first thing they wanted to know was my stand on homosexuality, my opinions about abortion, and my beliefs about the Bible. I don’t think I passed.”
  3. Phil Miller discusses LifeWay Christian Stores’ new Read With Discernment program. “(I will note, though, that it does seem somewhat hypocritical to continue to sell a product you think dangerous enough to require a warning label).”
  4. John Baker links to a video purportedly showing Hamas killing people at a wedding for playing music, footage of men being rounded up, Fox News footage of people dancing in the streets in East Jerusalem on September 11, 2001, and Islamist propaganda videos (YouTube).
  5. Defending Contending calls out Guitar Praise (a Rock Band knock-off with Christian Music). “I also wonder if this is being marketed to the underground Church in Communist countries.”
  6. Christian Research Net shares a link to Stacy Campbell blessing Todd Bentley (YouTube), “who are Emerging Christ-followers, or any believers in Jesus the Evangelist for that matter, to think this use of Scripture and prophecy by people who “love” Jesus could be wrong.”
  7. Four Pointer at Defending Contending shares quotes from Mormon texts. “The purpose of this post is not to “bash” Mormons, but rather to show them that they have not been told the truth about the history of what the former leaders taught and practiced.”
  8. Ken Silva calls out Billy Graham for being a closet universalist. “Graham announces, and he far from alone is this, “everybody that loves Christ, or knows Christ, whether they’re conscious of it or not, they’re members of the Body of Christ.” Zow-ee; now we even have salvation via osmosis with none of that nasty ol’ preaching of the Gospel.”
  9. Orrin Judd shares a column by Irshad Manji from the Globe and Mail, calling for Muslims to embrace independent thinking. “Still unable to draw the link between self-protection and suicide, I proposed this analogy: ‘If my boss steals my job and I kill myself because something that is mine has been taken away, am I a martyr?’ Horrified, the translator shook his head. ‘No, no, you can’t ask this.'”
  10. Ralph Petersen shares a story of false hope. “I thought about the gospel appeal as described at Tom’s memorial service. What was the object? What was the compelling argument for faith? It was just the hope of heaven and the reunion of the family. There was nothing about Jesus or the forgiveness of sin or his need for a savior. As I looked around the room, I noticed that there were several who had never heard the gospel and this memorial service was a lost opportunity.” Petersen doesn’t give Tom’s last name or identify the pastor officiating at the memorial service.
  11. Jeremy Nelson at Renewing Our Minds shares a couple of clips from the Alex Jones expose of Bohemian Grove (1, 2) and his own video clip about occult symbols, etc.
  12. Dwayna Litz shares quotes from John Shelby Spong. “When you ask about “believing in Jesus Christ as your personal savior” you are using stylized evangelical language. That language has no appeal at all for me. To assert the role of savior for Jesus implies a definition of human life as sinful, fallen and helpless. It assumes the ancient myth that proclaimed that we were created perfect only to fall into sin from which we need to be rescued. It was a popular definition before people understood about our evolutionary background. We have been evolving toward humanity for billions of years. “
  13. E. E. Evans discusses press coverage of the British atheist advertising campaign. “What is a “non-religious belief”? I’d also like to see some independent corroboration of those statistics.”
  14. Phil Naessens continues discussing preterism, asks where the New Heaven and New Earth are. “If righteousness dwells in this new heaven and new earth, as Peter points out then how come there is so much unrighteousness in this new heaven and new earth?”
  15. Chris Rosebrough responds to listener comments, repeats that Barack Obama is a Christian, says George W. Bush and Glenn Beck are not (podcast).
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OD Today: 7 January 2009 (very late edition)

January 7, 2009

Warning: if this weblog were a movie, it would be rated R due to repeated uses of the words “death” and “abortion” and occasional uses of the words “hell” and “kill.” We’ll try to keep the language tame, and warn on content when appropriate.

Most of tonight’s items are continuing stories; the exceptions are the “pathological antagonists” article and the news item about Ed Dobson.

  1. Chris Rosebrough calls out Jane Dratz again, this time for her Christian Post article on how to share your faith using a song by Leona Lewis.
  2. Chris Lyons shares an article from Frontline Fellowship that appears to be taken entirely from Guy Greenfield’s book The Wounded Minister (2002), regarding pathological antagonists. It’s a shame these pathological antagonists don’t seek out abusive pastors, and vice versa.
  3. But the reasons why Origen may have preferred one reading over another can be quite complex, to be sure. In any case, all we can glean from the references Ehrman himself provides is that Origen knew of the variant in the third century.”
  4. Ingrid Schlueter links to an article by Matt Trewhella regarding Ed Dobson (not James Dobson, but the former Moral Majority lieutenant) who said recently that he voted for Barack Obama. “I have seen this with other Christian leaders who have become leftist in their political views. They call upon Christians to have nothing to do with politics, and then they involve themselves with politics – leftist politics.” Both say Dobson is apostate: “When a Christian leader boasts about voting for Barack Obama he has apostatized. Christianity opposes the killing of the preborn and the legitimizing of sodomy. Always has.”
  5. Miriam Franklin comments on the return of Todd Bentley and Rick Joyner’s work in restoring Bentley. Bentley is apparently not returning to his wife.
  6. Dwayna Litz picks up on the popularity of the doctrine of soul sleep among some in the Hebrew Roots movement, calls out Lew White. Full article here.
  7. John Chishem continues with part three of his review of Jesus Wants to Save Christians, by Rob Bell and Don Golden. “From the reading of this book, and the reading of the narrative theology along with other books and videos and recordings, it is clear that Bell is teaching the Christian Universalist Heresy and wrapping it in the poetic language of the New Exodus. “
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OD Today: 4 January 2009 (early edition)

January 4, 2009

The links overnight were few in number, but some of them are fascinating (Henry Neufield on belivers in liberal churches), troubling (Job at Jesus Christology on Palestinians), and outright disturbing (Miriam Franklin on charismatic ties to Guatemalan death squads). Enjoy.

  1. Miriam Franklin links to this article from the Western Standard (Calgary, Alberta) regarding the return of Todd Bentley, with some speculation about how he’ll make money. “There’s a new revival flavour-of-the-month, which is being led by Steve Gray out of Kansas City, and yes, has it’s own international TV hook-up.”
  2. John Baker quotes a Bloomberg article on current U. S. manufacturing output. “Every component suggests that the weakness is going to carry over into 2009.”
  3. Chris Rosebrough links and comments on Next Level Church‘s upcoming sermon series “The Gospel According to The Beatles.” “Notice that the Fab 4 have been promoted to ‘sainthood’ despite the fact that they all openly and bluntly rejected Jesus Christ (especially John Lennon).”
  4. Defending Contending links to an anti-Seventh-Day-Adventist documentary (YouTube).
  5. Miriam Franklin has a long article on Harold Caballeros, associate of C. Peter Wagner and his association with death squads in his native Guatemala, excerpted in part from this document (PDF). This may be the most disturbing thing I’ve read today.
  6. John Baker quotes an article from the Arizona Republic about the Green Bible with comments from some of its critics. “The effort has received strong support from such prominent theologians as the Rev. Richard Cizik, former head of the National Association of Evangelicals, who has said that Christians had a Biblical mandate to take care of the Earth and that climate change was a crisis that needed to be addressed immediately.”
  7. Phil Perkins starts a series on Online Discernment Ministries. “When I saw that Team Pyro was shilling for Challies, I warned Phil Johnson, Frank Turk, and company of the sinful things Challies was doing. Instead of thanking me and checking it out to make sure I wasn’t lying, they immediately gave me the you’re-too-stupid-to-live treatment.”
  8. Cindy Kunsman offers a bunch of links on church abuse and recovery.
  9. John Kubicek links to a Joseph Farah editorial on Rick Warren’s “try Jesus for sixty days” comments.
  10. Job at Jesus Christology offers a long discussion of whether evangelical Christians, in their zeal for Israel, especially as part of its Dispensationalist picture of the future, consider the plight of rank and file Palestinians. “So the people suggesting that everything would be better if the Palestinians simply left en masse – or were Israel be bold and courageous enough to stand up for themselves by driving them out – either know full well that they are not proposing a workable solution or have not studied the situation enough to know that what they propose is not viable. Either way, they are no help to the situation, which means that they are no help to Israel or to the Jews. The truth is, though, that the people who believe that a solution for the Palestinians involves them remaining in Israel are not being much more realistic.”
  11. Henry Neufield offers links regarding claims by Casey Luskin, of the Discovery Institute, and responses from Ken Miller, Brown University biology professor.
  12. Henry Neufield offers a longish post on being a believer in a liberal church. “A friend of mine once commented to me that the main attack form of liberals is intellectual ridicule, while the main attack form of conservatives is moral condemnation. I’ve since had several conservative friends point out that many liberals are quite capable of moral condemnation, and I know the reverse to be true as well. Belief often does not stand up well to intellectual ridicule.”
  13. Henry Neufield offers a link to a televison ad by First United Methodist Church of Pensacola, Florida for their new program with “modern music” that “embraces the creative arts” (YouTube). I am guessing the latter term means there will be skits.
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OD Today: 2 January 2009

January 1, 2009

Today the new year begins in earnest; let’s hope we’re done with recaps, resolutions, and top ten lists.

  1. Kat summarizes New Age perspectives on the Rapture.
  2. Wendy at Joyfully Growing in Grace takes on the question of interpreting Paul’s writings, particularly Romans 14, using the Torah within the Hebrew Roots Movement. “t’s become clear that the concept is not uncommon among several facets in the Law-keeping community, including but not limited to those in the Hebrew Roots Movement, “Messianics”, Seventh Day Adventism, and Church of God sects.”
  3. Kit shares a link to The Keith Green Story.
  4. Dwayna Litz connects the dots between the New Age group The Fellowship of Friends and contemplative prayer. She also links to an older article where she calls out J. P. Moreland for his endorsement of spiritual disciplines. “Isn’t it clear that ‘practicing the presence’ is for those who are not indwelt with the presence of Christ through the Holy Spirit? There is no need to ‘practice’ a ‘presence’ when the perfect God of the universe dwells within you in all of His perfection.” Her discussion of this issue is as clear and succinct in its elaboration of ODMs objections to contemplation as I’ve seen.
  5. Ken Silva calls out Focus on the Family for recommending The Message via its brio magazine.
  6. Dwayna Litz shares verses for confronting New Agers. “A typical “spiritual” seeker of “esoteric Christianity” would read what he or she likes and not read the verses that convict of sin and tell of the depravity of people apart from Jesus.”
  7. James Swan responds to Patrick Madrid (Catholic Answers Live)’s interpretation of the woman “clothed in the sun” in Revelation 12 as being Mary, the mother of Jesus. “This is a striking example of private interpretation. Rome’s apologists may claim to be part of a monolithic church in which all her devoted apologists are on the same page, but when one surveys their writings it becomes quite obvious such is not the case.”
  8. James White takes on the question of whether Mormonism is Christian; his primary thesis is that Mormonism is polytheistic and Christianity is monotheistic (YouTube).
  9. John Kubicek links to The Farahness Doctrine, Joseph Farah’s Christian Libertarian manifesto.
  10. John Kubicek picks up the story of Igor Panarin and his prediction of the breakup of the United States in 2010 (Wall Street Journal).
  11. John Kubicek picks up the story of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, two Border Patrol agents George W. Bush has declined to pardon (World Net Daily).
  12. Dorothy Anderson asks what hyper-preterists do with the Devil. “The question is – who or what is/was Satan? Is he still active today? How do they define him/it?”
  13. Dorothy Anderson asks what creeds hyper-preterists can affirm. “What has happened in hyper-preterism is their eschatological (end times) position requires them to redefine, or at best reschedule the resurrection and after 25+ years, they still have no unified solution to offer.”
  14. Jeremy at Renewing Our Minds links to an article about the difference between a recession and a depression, and the question of which describes the current economic climate (Economist).
  15. Jeremy at Renewing Our Minds links to a couple of Gaza-related articles: one on dangers to Israeli nuclear plants, another on Hamas battle plans. With lots of links.
  16. Miriam Franklin summarizes the return of Todd Bentley.
  17. Michael Newnham asks, among other things, why conservative Christian supporters of Israel don’t demand Israel change its religious policies. “Do we deny a part of our faith by not demanding the freedom to proclaim Christ?”
  18. La Shawn Barber parses this news story, regarding a gang-rape. “Then it dawned on me. The races of the gang-raping thugs: three hispanic and one black. I’d venture a guess that the victim is white.”
  19. Cindy Kunsman offers a glossary regarding cults, cultism, and cultic groups.
  20. Jeremy at Renewing Our Minds links to a story claiming Republican National Committee members are considering accusing the outgoing President of socialism.
  21. Mike Ratliff offers an article by Arthur Pink on Present-Day Evangelism.
  22. Watcher’s Lamp links to a document from the Vatican titled “Fighting Poverty to Build Peace,” comments: “Looks like America’s Pastor, Rick Warren, has been echoing the message from the Vatican…” and another article on the head of the Roman Catholic Church offering a prayer to Mary, the mother of Jesus, on behalf of the global economy.
  23. Ingrid Schlueter links to this Yahoo article on inaugural prayers, repeats that the Obama inauguration story is about abortion: “Will God be moved if Rick Warren mouths the name of Jesus while asking for the blessing on America’s radical, pro-death President? What a farce this is.”
  24. Ingrid Schlueter passes on a picture of a large pro-life billboard in San Francisco.
  25. James Hutchens on Israel, Hamas, and proportionate force.
  26. Christine at Talk Wisdom offers a long article by Susan Smith of Life in Israel – One Body. “Because I am convinced the one Church body and Israel are one and the same, spiritually speaking, I changed the name to “Life in Israel-One Body.”
  27. John Sexton parses a Newsweek article on recent relations between the United States and Iran. “I predict that within a year this same idiot will cheer Obama on when we give Israel the go-ahead for preemptive strikes on Iran’s nuke capability. Wait and see. The rules are different for Democrats.”
  28. Bill Wilson on media coverage of Israel/Hamas. “While the news media is clamoring about how Israel is targeting civilians, the story of why some homes are targeted is totally missed. Hamas and the Palestinians house their weapons, command centers and leaders in civilian communities for two reasons…”
  29. Joel Rosenberg on the range of Hamas missiles. “There were growing fears in Israel last night that Hamas missiles could threaten its top-secret nuclear facility at Dimona.”
  30. Ken Silva links to a two-part teaching from John MacArthur on the sufficiency of Scripture.
  31. Chris Lyons comments on recent focus in Online Discernment on Universalism/Christian Universalism.
  32. La Shawn Barber on the Word of Promise Next Generation audio New Testament: “I just find it…wild, weird, and smart!”
  33. James Thomas on Ted Haggard and true repentance. “If we Mis-Represent the work and power of God through true Repentance then we His Church on earth will become the cause of shipwrecking the faith of many of His people, and even worse, lead the lost into the deepest and darkest pit that we ourselves are destine to fall in as we ourselves temble in right beside them.”
  34. Kit offers a response to the Zeitgeist movie.

And finally, another post from Rod Dreher on Arab reactions and rhetoric in Florida to the situation in Gaza. “Thus does jihadism manifest itself (once again) in America, despite the denial of bien-pensants.”

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Chris Rosebrough end-of-year issues (2008)

January 1, 2009

Chris Rosebrough’s end-of-year recap is here, at Extreme Theology. Here are the bullets:

  • Marijuana ministers Green Earth Ministries. Article from A Little Leaven here.
  • 30-day sex challenge: Paul Wirth/Relevant Church. Mahalo link here. Ed Young followed suit with a seven-day sex challenge. Ed Young’s own video is here, but it’s a private video; see also lots of comments there. 
  • The Mountain Lake Church/Naked Church campaign. The article from A Little Leaven with video and link is here.
  • The Oaks Fellowship for its television-themed sermon series. See here for a GodTube video for Real Life: Dancing With The Stars part 5.
  • Gay Episcopal bishop Katherine Jefferts Schori.
  • Exegesis of nursery rhymes (Wayne Dyer). Link with video at A Little Leaven.
  • Pastor (Chad Smith) and family for sale on eBay (link).
  • Christian rap, particularly Act Like a Christian/Lean like a Cholo (video).
  • Obama Be They Name (video).
  • Saddleback/Simply Youth High School Musical 3 Bible Study.
  • Bill Scheer of Guts Church “I Am Not A Sinner” (link).
  • Sonseed’s “Jesus Is A Friend Of Mine.” (video).
  • Brian McLaren on the Bleeding Purple podcast, refuting the doctrine of Hell (audio with pictures). 
  • The Voice Bible
  • Rob Bell’s appearance at Seeds of Compassion; (A Little Leaven, Youth Ministries Alert).
  • Peter Popoff’s Miracle Manna (video).
  • Mike Murdock’s miracle seeds (link, video).
  • Paula White & Larry Huck’s Seven Places Jesus Shed His Blood (video).
  • Todd Bentley’s Florida Outpouring (head kick video).
  • Patricia King’s sapphire glitter (link).
  • Granger Community Church’s Reveal Study (link).
  • The Shack (book website).
  • John Crowder & Ben Dunn and their spiritual intoxication (video).
  • Dutch Sheets interprets a dream (link).
  • Rick Pino’s “You Spin Me Round” (video).
  • Jane Dratz’s How To Share Your Faith Using Paris Hilton’s My New BFF (link).
  • Rob Bell’s lectio divina (link, with parody sketch).
  • Rick Warren, generally, but in particular his appearance on The Colbert Report.